Black Women Need Love Too!

[Djehuty]

Join the Chopping It Up Live trio of Tanjareen Martin, Djehuty Ma'at-Ra, and Forrest "Gumpster" Patrick for a lively discussion with activist, producer, and author, Pearl Jr., author of the book "Black Women Need Love Too!"

Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 11 a.m. PST / 12 p.m. MST / 1 p.m. CST / 2 p.m. EST

Questions and Statements: Telephone (310) 928-7733, E-mail: innerlightradio@yahoo.com, Skype: inner_light-radio

Check out Pearl Jr at www.blackwomenmeedlovetoo.com

[Djehuty]

BUMP!

[Ezkeel]

BUMP!

[Djehuty]

Nothing to be sad about! Pearl should drop some realisms today, especially about modern day trends.

[Ezkeel]

well only thing to be sad about is that i am going to miss it

but what i was really doing was asking what does BUMP!!!! mean?

[Goddyssey]

He bumped the thread to the top of the list.

[Ezkeel]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
 
my bad

[curtisduncan]

Beloved Sister Pearl talked a lot about AIDS and Black women LOL.  I am assuming that she does not know that AIDS is an illusion.    My personal take is that Black women are the cause of their own problems just as Black men are the cause of their own problems.  As it pertains to the Black males' treatment of the sistas that more so has to do with the sistas and how they feel about themselves than the issues with Black males.  I also do not think that Black women need saving by Black males.  To me, this denotes lack and religious programming (Jesus being the "savior" of millions of women throughout the world particularly for many religiously zealous sistas).  In my eyes, whenever you need something implies that there is a lack of something which creates more lack.  I guess that is why sistas are always in "need of love".  The issues with sistas and brothas for that matter is complex but in my overall view it is one that can be easily remedied through knowledge/knowledge of self, mental sciences, and self-love.  I am not justifying the actions and issues with the brothas but I absolutely do not feel that brothas are the cause of sista's problems.   Can brothas contribute to them? No doubt but I believe that sistas are co-creating circumstances that they do not want with men that they do not want.  I do commend Sister Pearl for doing a thorough examination of Black woman issues though. In closing, I would say to the brothas and sistas that we are the solution to create the kind of lives we want.  Great show though. Peace family.

[General Overstand]

Beloved Sister Pearl talked a lot about AIDS and Black women LOL.  I am assuming that she does not know that AIDS is an illusion.    My personal take is that Black women are the cause of their own problems just as Black men are the cause of their own problems.  As it pertains to the Black males' treatment of the sistas that more so has to do with the sistas and how they feel about themselves than the issues with Black males.  I also do not think that Black women need saving by Black males.  To me, this denotes lack and religious programming (Jesus being the "savior" of millions of women throughout the world particularly for many religiously zealous sistas).  In my eyes, whenever you need something implies that there is a lack of something which creates more lack.  I guess that is why sistas are always in "need of love".  The issues with sistas and brothas for that matter is complex but in my overall view it is one that can be easily remedied through knowledge/knowledge of self, mental sciences, and self-love.  I am not justifying the actions and issues with the brothas but I absolutely do not feel that brothas are the cause of sista's problems.   Can brothas contribute to them? No doubt but I believe that sistas are co-creating circumstances that they do not want with men that they do not want.  I do commend Sister Pearl for doing a thorough examination of Black woman issues though. In closing, I would say to the brothas and sistas that we are the solution to create the kind of lives we want.  Great show though. Peace family.

I cosign to your metaphysical breakdown Brother Curtis. True love can only really be found within oneself. The external world is an extension of the inner world. As within so without. No doubt. 

[enlightenmeplz]

I agree with you Curtis. I really enjoyed the show and Sista Pearl had alot of valid information on the black relationships. However I felt a lot of angry and hurt coming from her when she was talking about the subject matter. I know .... really I do not want to use the word angry but that is what I got from her. I also think that she is talking from a perspective that alot of black women talk who has not learned self yet. How are you going to love someone else when you don't love yourself. It is no balance there.

But because so many women have this aura about them that they are strong, "I got it" sometime that energy is push out to a man (especially black men) as if they are not needed. Then the approach was kind of harsh as well. Let's just say passionate. Her stance that homosexuality and/or pussy envy was interesting to me as well.  That is the person personal choice.

I am off to work and I want to finish my comment later. I am just going to put it other there. But I think black men need love too. Hell everyone does.

I love my brothas 

[Djehuty]

Beloved Sister Pearl talked a lot about AIDS and Black women LOL.  I am assuming that she does not know that AIDS is an illusion.    My personal take is that Black women are the cause of their own problems just as Black men are the cause of their own problems.  As it pertains to the Black males' treatment of the sistas that more so has to do with the sistas and how they feel about themselves than the issues with Black males.  I also do not think that Black women need saving by Black males.  To me, this denotes lack and religious programming (Jesus being the "savior" of millions of women throughout the world particularly for many religiously zealous sistas).  In my eyes, whenever you need something implies that there is a lack of something which creates more lack.  I guess that is why sistas are always in "need of love".  The issues with sistas and brothas for that matter is complex but in my overall view it is one that can be easily remedied through knowledge/knowledge of self, mental sciences, and self-love.  I am not justifying the actions and issues with the brothas but I absolutely do not feel that brothas are the cause of sista's problems.   Can brothas contribute to them? No doubt but I believe that sistas are co-creating circumstances that they do not want with men that they do not want.  I do commend Sister Pearl for doing a thorough examination of Black woman issues though. In closing, I would say to the brothas and sistas that we are the solution to create the kind of lives we want.  Great show though. Peace family.

I agree Beloved! As host, I just play the role and ask questions as an advocate of sorts to generate certain feedback from the guest, not and try and school them or argue with them. Pearl will be back next month though and perhaps every month! LOL!!!

Black women are to blame partially for all that they experience. Many black women drove off many black men because of the pressure they put on black men after these black women started getting these corporate jobs in the 1970s. And that independent woman "I Don't Need A Man!" attitude repelled a lot of men!

There's so much to say on the subject!

[General Overstand]

Pearl will be back next month though and perhaps every month! LOL!!!

You should have her on there every week. She brings the ruckus!!

[enlightenmeplz]

“Black Women need love too” this statement is very true. But not just black women but all people need love as a stated in my earlier comment. Pearl Jr’s interview was most interesting to me because I happen to be a Black, Educated, Success, and Independent (according to society terms), creative, and spiritual woman. I should have it going on. Right? Because I have these attributes I should have love right. Yet I am single as well. Love is a divine right that everyone should have. But it starts within you. I am actually in the process of falling in love me myself. I must say I am cool ass chick too. 

This use to ponder me and I can empathize with all of female. I would always think that something was wrong with me because I desire that Hollywood, knight in shining armor, sweep me of my feet love. I did not have that in my reality. And I know a lot of females that were similar to me. Only when I start study Metaphysics and become more conscious that I realize I was the factor as to why I have not found “The One”.  LOL
I like Pearl Jr and I think that her intentions were meant for good. However I think that Pearl’s passion is a little misguided and geared towards the wrong people (black men). Now if blame must be place then it can be place with both the black female and male. If we took the Metaphysics out of the equation (which you really can’t because no man is can escape law; but for argument’s sake) and look at it from a typical single black female perspective then maybe Pearl’s passion could be completely valid. But then again if one look at it logically there are still some misplaced blame..

1.   “Black males lack of respect for his black woman”. This is because woman allows the disrespect to happen. You have women out there that play the “peacock” game. This is a masculine non-nature way to be for a woman because only male peacocks flaunt and show off. Look at me I got this I got that. Not all but some women where the provocative clothes, has that “I think like a man mentality”. You can not have a video hoe without the hoe. Women contribute to the lack of respect because they do not command respect. If you do not have respect for yourself how you do expect that from others. You have to respect yourself.

2.   “Father’s leaving the home”. This comes from not knowing who you are procreating with. If a woman took the time and energy and invest it on knowing her partner then maybe that would limit the experience of fathers leaving the home. I know this first hand because I have my own experience. But then again that comes with knowing your self.

3.   “AIDS and HIV are higher in the black community”. Even though this is a fraud people still believe the hype. She even mentioned how they screwed with the stats herself. So how are you going to have a fair assessment when the data is inaccurate? But for argument sake. You have to know who you are sleeping with period. People are operating on low vibration but want to have a high vibration experience.  Like love. Men do not sleep by themselves and despite what people say a larger number do not sleep with men. I agreed with her on that. But to have such a judgmental approach towards homosexuals (males) was unwarranted. They are not the only problem with the break down in Black relationships. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.

4.   “You should not be able to get married unless you can naturally procreate”. LMAO. What happened to the notion that Black women Need Love too. The key word in that phrase is “love”. It is my hope that People marry each other because they love each other. But if you love yourself then marriage does not have to be a must because you are fulfilled with yourself.

5.   “You need a man” (be it Black, White, a Savior, whatever to save the woman). Now I overstand that men have this need to be protective. But come on. I do not need a man to save me from myself. I do not need him to save me financially (which she kept emphasizing). I do not need a man to complete me. What I do need is a companion someone that compliments me and love me just for being…. You guessed it… me. I personally do not want a man that does not want me. I am damn sure not going to waste my time and energy trying to persuade them otherwise. Men do not determine my value.

The list can go on and on but I feel like I have put to much energy into this post all ready. LOL. I just get perturbed anytime I hear women placing the blame on why they are alone on black men. When we have changed the roles and taken on this male energy that is not conducive to out femininity. Next time ask Pearl Jr. how many relationship that she actually put together where their were black women and black men. I believe she means well but her methods and her views come off as divisive. If I was a man she would run me away.

 I feel like brothas get beat up over and over again not only by the powers that be, but by women that should have should in essence be there for them and vice versa. I am not saying that they should be pacified and they are responsible for their own actions. However I feel like this system pins us against each other. We compete against each other. It is not a championship it is companionship that people should seek. That slave and “chasing paper” mentality contribute to the plight of the “Black Relationship”. Just Downright selfish both sexes. But the fucked up part of the whole situation is that people Do not…. Refuse…..Flat outright object…. TO LOOK WITHIN THEMSELVES. All of your answers are within. Love yourself first and you can not help but attract love.

[ThatGirl]

Did Pearl speak on Black women dating interracially? Or was the focus of the show solely on Black women-Black men relationships?

[enlightenmeplz]

Did Pearl speak on Black women dating interracially? Or was the focus of the show solely on Black women-Black men relationships?

She did talk about that. My interpretation was that it is okay for Black women to date interracially due to the scarcity of quality black men. But black men should not date/marry interracially because of that same scarcity. I think you should check the show out if you can. It was very interesting and makes you think.