Vegan vs. Vegan

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Debate between Professor Gary L. Francione and Bruce Friedrich. Both vegans, very different view on the best way to move forward.

2015-09-08T11:08:01+00:00

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    Q: Hey Gary, I've heard a lot of hype about the paleo diet. I'm a vegan. Is the paleo diet a diet you would recommend? Can it work with vegan lifestyle? Thanks!

    A:

    Sorry for the late response, This one got kind of lost in my emails. Thanks for your question.

    The Paleo diet.... something nice.... something nice.... heh.

    The Paleo diet emphasizes drinking water and eating local/organic food. They shun dairy, processed food, and grains. I agree. 

    I disagree with just about everything else. For paleo theory to be correct Vegans either have to not exist or be doing very poorly. Wrong on both accounts. They say vegans just can't get enough protein or that we are missing x,y,z in our diets. Never mind that every major paleo website sells the supplements they say only vegans are deficient in. "Vegans don't get enough protein so eat meat and then buy our protein powder supplements. Vegans don't get enough omega 3's so just eat fish and while you are at it buy our krill oil supplements." And so on. The paleo diet is just the low carb diet re-branded. Here are the results of long term low carb eating. http://www.pcrm.org/health/reports/analysis-of-health-problems-associated-with-high.

    Vegans are doing extremely well and in most long term studies Vegans end up on top in both health and longevity. 

    Also see this video http://nutritionfacts.org/video/paleolithic-lessons/

    They claim carbohydrates make you fat and that the more you eat the more you weigh. Why then do the 80-10-10 crowd all appear not only all thin but extremely healthy? Carbohydrates are your bodies main source of fuel. Preferred source. Every cell in your body runs on glucose. The human body is amazing. The is a secondary source of energy in case of starvation, or glucose deprived. The body starts to burn fat as fuel known as keytosis. This was only meant as a way to keep the body running during famine. However the paleo people think this is a preferred state to be in. It's not. Look up keto-acidosis. Could be deadly.The bottom line is that people will always be looking forward to the latest fad that tells them "good things about their bad habits".

    My Diet program that I run follows a high carb/low fat/high alkaline/high raw protocol.  All my client reach remarkable health results. 

    I could go on forever, but I think you get the point. Let me know if you have anything else to add to this discussion. 

    -Gary Gibson HHC CPT

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    Q: I am just becoming a vegan going on 20 years in June, and it takes a lot of discipline. I was wondering if you knew any good recipes for some good vegan style dishes. I really want to establish a vegan restaurant. I have purchased your Alternative Diet and Lifestyle Manual, and I know its healthier to eat vegan. But, I also understand its not the healthiest due to soy products. Is their still away to satisfy my appetite and well being at the same time?

    A:

    We have a couple of articles you might be interested in.

    Articles
    Dietary Choices
    Dherbs.Com Position on Soy Products

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    Q: I have recently made the transformation to becoming a complete vegan. How can I determine what foods are for vegans?

    A:

    Simple question to the self that you can always ask now as a vegan, "Is this product derived from an animal?", and you'll never go wrong as a vegan. Two good questions, to help you make your own decisions as a conscious consumer and vegan: Is it nautral (from the Earth/plant)? Is it from animal? Always ask yourself these 2 questions when in doubt!

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    Q: I live in New Jersey and I'm interested in where can I purchase these crystals you spoke about on one of your audio tapings and I'm also interested in water alkaliner/oxygenizer. The one you spoke about drinking and giving you the energy to move many boxes.

    A:

    Call information (411) and ask for SOOTHE YOUR SOUL in Redondo Beach, California (located on Pacific Coast Highway). This store sells both crystals and the water alkalizer machine.

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    Q: Question, I'm vegan/vegetarian 27 male (black)...I'm having symptoms of the Flu: cold chills, like sinus headache, lost of appetite, shoulder pain!...I've been dealing wit' this now for 3 days; the worst is over, no more cold chills & just got my appetite back today and no more body pain; but I still have a slight headache, I can move my eyes around a bit more. In the future what way can I safeguard my internal against such sicknesses?

    A:

    DHERBS: BATH IN HOT WATER, 1 BOX OF SEA SALT DAILY! FOR HEADACHES, TAKE DHERBS HEADACHE & PAIN FORMULA AND HEADACHE TEA. PERFORM AN ENEMA. RAINFOREST TONIC AND IMMUNE SUPPORT IS A GREAT FORMULA THAT GUARDS THE IMMUNE SYSTEM.

    And I have a 4yr. daughter after being sick what type of accentual oils are good for cleaning & killing germs after this sickness is over?

    DHERBS: ESSENTIAL OILS OF TEA TREE, NIAOULI, RAVENSARE, MANUKA, CAJEPUT, EUCALYPTUS, AND LEMON.

    What are some other effective natural herbs that r affective in curing these symptoms? (beside the ones listed down below)

    DHERBS: ECHINACEA, GOLDENSEAL, CAT'S CLAW, PAU D' ARCO, GINSENG, ELDERBERRY, AND ASTRAGALUS

    I've been fighting these symptoms with Lemon Juice ginger Echinacea (combination) Lemon Water (spring), Green tea & today just got a bit of my appetite back: vegetarian chili w/garlic. I've been burning Tea oil & lemon grass; don't ask why those just gave me the most comfort.

    DHERBS: ALWAYS DO WHAT WORKS, BELOVED!

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    Q: I see also that you recommend a complete diet with these programs. I am guessing its a vegan diet right? I wanted to ask something on that is coconut milk and coconut oils ok for that? I personally had a very hard time trying to eat that many vegetables and many ph balance vegans seem to think fruits aren?t good either. I eat that many vegetables one it tears me up the next day and two I just cant consume enough calories that way. I can try and make up for it by eating things like almonds but I eat to many almonds I get the same problem the next day. Now coconut milk (unsweetened) and a digestive enzyme works for me for picking up extra calories.... but I hear very conflicting information about coconut and its saturated fat content. Is it ok to use daily as a part of the diet for cleansing? And your oxy-drops are those the same as the drop for ph balancing water?? Or is it something different? I am wanting to start lifting weights as I need to put on some muscle and I?m wondering if its something that would be beneficial in combating muscle soreness by increased oxygen in the body.

    A:

    The diet we recommend is vegan-based, and RAW FOODS. Fresh fruits, vegetables, raw nuts and seeds are ideal.

    Coconut Milk and Coconut Oil are excellent products to have in your diet. The healthy fats will keep you fuller.

    Oxy-Drops can help balance your electrolytes that need to be replenished after a workout in order to keep your body performing efficiently. 

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    Q: I don't know if you remember or know, but there was a Vegan Couple that had a newborn baby, and the baby had died from what seemed to be a lack a of nutrients because the couple fed the baby a vegan diet. If you remember this, what do you think went wrong.

    A:

    The couple was from Atlanta! What went wrong is that while they were well-intentioned, they were ignorant, ignorant to true nutrition. They fed the baby soy milk, and soy milk does not contain nutrition. They didn't supplement the soy milk with nutrition which they could have done with herbs such as alfalfa, Irish Moss, Iceland Moss, etc.

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    Q: What is the best way for a Vegan to get vit? B 12? What do you think about essential oils? Have you heard of the Young Living brand? I work with a woman who says she has eczema, but it is deep purple and very painful. I have never seen anything like it, but her doctors want to try chemo to get rid of it. Doctors are so brilliant. Why do so many people go to get punished by them?

    A:

    FOR B12, EAT PLENTY OF GREEN VEGETABLES OR TAKE VITAMIN B 12. I HAVE HEARD OF YOUNG LIVING BRAND. ESSENTIAL OLIS ARE ESSENTIAL OILS. YOUNG LIVING IS JUST A BRAND. THE OILS ARE THE SAME. YL OFFERS GOOD OILS. I ENDORSE THEM! GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY! CHEMOTHERAPY FOR ECZEMA? PLEASE TELL ME YOUR FRIEND HAS BRAINS AND KNOWS NOT TO FALL FOR THIS. PLEASE HAVE HER READ MY ARTICLE ON â€ECZEMAâ€. I STAY AWAY FROM DOCTORS AT ALL COSTS!

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    Q: If I take your Vegan Protein Powder Mix, what effect will that have on a drug test?

    A:

    The Vegan Protein Powder will have no effect on a drug test.

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    Q: If I may ask a question in reference to invasive examination such as mammography, colonoscopies, and bone density test. I'm a vegan and into the natural healing, could you give me your remarks concerning these exams. Thank you and I really appreciate all the information you bring forward.

    A:

    We don't recommend invasive procedures or examinations, beloved. They are unnecessary when you EAT, THINK, ACT, LIVE right and healthy. But the choice is all yours to make. Trust your own intuition! Many of these exams (like mammograms) are DANGEROUS! You can get sick just going in for an exam. Read our article "Idiopathic Diseases" on our site under "Articles."

    The best insurance is assurance and the best assurance is a healthy lifestyle!

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    Q: I would like to order the cleanse for women... my husband is doing the full body cleanse now... what do you recommend for me... ? I really need to work on my diet am vegetarian however, I feel like I truly face some of the same issues you faced during your conversion.. perhaps I need to consider going back to strictly vegan vegetables! I use to be very healthy but now I take meds for stomach pains.. etc... but I have implemented flaxseed oil into my diet .. .what is your view on flaxseed..? I found this article to very interesting that you wrote.. I have headaches from time to time also.

    A:

    We would recommend you perform the Full Body Cleanse to help remedy the sypmtoms you are experiencing. A raw foods diet is recommended while on the cleanse, so you are on the right track. Flaxseed Oil is a great product to have in your diet, as it provides healthy fats.

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    Q: My king and I are vegans. We are interested in a Full Body Detox kit. Since we do not eat any type of poultry or meat, we didn't want anything that would be too harsh. Which kit do you recommend for vegans - the Full Body Detox, Parasite & Worm Kit or something else? What would you recommend for purifying the spiritual ka and physical bath?

    A:

    I would recommend the FULL BODY DETOX hands down!

    For purifying the spiritual ka I would use all 7 chakra elixirs and get chakra balancing performed or learn to do it yourself. Purifying physical ka: Full Body Detox, bathing in sea salt and essential oils, and some of the other things offered in the "Alternative Diet and Lifestyle Manual" and "Full Body Detox Companion."

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    Q: Would the FULL BODY DETOX be of any benefit for someone eating a vegan diet for 3 weeks even though one meal per day was cooked?

    A:

    I REALLY WOULDN'T SUGGEST THAT BUT YOU HAVE FREE WILL TO DO AS YOU PLEASE!

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    A: All of our products are 100% all natural plant life herbs. We do not use any kind of unnatural ingredients including animal products, gluten, GMO, binders or fillers.

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    Q: How often should one eat cook food? I'm a vegan, I do not consume any meat, seafood, milk what so ever. I eat water cresses like everyday so as cook food. Like white rice with black bean sauce, spinach, and pasta at time's I'll eat some Chinese fried rice, veggie roll, steamed vegetables, any advice?

    A:

    You can eat cooked food as much as you like. However, try to incorporate as many nutrient-dense raw foods, such as fresh fruits and vegetables, raw nuts and seeds, into your diet to make sure you are receiving an adequate amount of nutrients.

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    Q: What is the difference between the PARASITE AND WORMS ELIMINATOR EXTRACT vs. the vegan caps? I trying to decide which one should I take? Are liquids better than capsules?

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    CAPSULES ARE BETTER THAN EXTRACTS AS CAPSULES ARE MORE POTENT AND STAY IN THE BODY LONGER.

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    Q: What's the best way to start on a vegan/raw food diet? I am not sure what to eat to make sure I would get a nutritious diet-you may not be able to go into that much detail but how can I get sample meal plans for breakfast, lunch and dinner incorporating this type of diet-perhaps there is somewhere on the web I find something like this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

    A:

    If I do say myself, the best way to start a raw food diet is to be coached by me. I run a 6 month health coaching program that is 60-90 percent raw and 100 percent vegan/gluten free/ allergy free. You can find out more about my program at www.theveganeffect.com. I am running a special of half off my program if you sign up before march 1st. 

    Here are some other tips to get started.

    1: Join a raw food meetup group or community. Surround yourself with supportive people who can point you in the right direction. Try meetup.org or 30bananasaday.com 

    2: Read books like "beauty detox solution" by snyder, "80/10/10" by Dr. Graham., or "The Paradigm diet" by Adam Dave

    3: Start simple with breakfast. Always start your day with a green smoothie. read "Green smoothie revolution" by forget authors name at the moment. heh.

    A sample meal plan would be.

    Breakfast: Green smoothie

    Bridge: raw bar, handful of nuts or seeds, or fruit

    Lunch: Raw wraps made from collard greens. use a base of tahini, hummus, or nut butter. Fill with sprouts and colorful veggies

    Bridge: raw bar, handful nuts or seeds, or fruit

    Dinner: Raw pasta with a large salad

    Snack: Sorbet 

     

    Hope that answers your question,

    Gary Gibson HHC CPT VLC BMI

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    Q: I'm a raw vegan, and still suffering from acne. I stay away from all sweeteners, except fresh whole fruits. I started to have lots of greens juices these days, and my skin has improved a little bit. What about spices such a cayenne pepper, is it bad for your skin? What about goji berries? I know they are diet fruits, thats why I stay away from them for a while. I even fast for a while. I just don't know how my skin can getter better.

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    Greetings! Have you detoxed (Full Body Detox)? Acne is a blood disorder. Please read our article "Skin Disorder = Blood Disorder" for more information. Our Healing Facial Kit will be out later this month. Recommended reading: The Mental Science Manual. Stay positive! Don't focus so much on the problem. Use visualization techniques, and see yourself as you desire to see yourself, with flawless skin.

    Article:
    Skin Disorder = Blood Disorder

    Product Links:
    Full Body Detox
    The Mental Science Manual

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    Q: I have purchased the detox cleanse. Can I eat any vegan dish. Or am I to eat only raw fruits and vegetables?

    A:

    We make it very clear that the detox (FULL BODY DETOX) diet calls for a strictly raw foods diet. Now if you want to eat vegan foods that's your choice via free will. Raw foods are BEST though! Just do the best you can!

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    Q: I am not sure if I am looking to go vegan, but I am doing the weight loss cleanse and do feel a difference in my body. My question is how do I keep up eating raw without getting bored? Can you recommend meal replacements and exercises.

    A:

    You should absolutely consider going vegan for your long term health, the health of the planet, and of course sparing countless animals from suffering. I have been vegan for over five years and they have been the best of my life! My health program www.theveganeffect.com is a huge success! 

     

    With that being said, the best way to keep from getting bored is to eat a variety of fruits and veggies. The main meals of a basic raw food eater is smoothies, soups, collard green wraps, and raw pasta made with zucchini instead of pasta. 

    You can find more recipes on my page or at http://foodnsport.com/recipes/

     

    When is comes to exercise and losing weight please refer to my detailed blog about it. http://the-vegan-effect.healthcoach.integrativenutrition.com/blog/2013/03/what-cardio-and-weight-training-best-for-fat-loss

     

    Hope this answers your question,

    Gary Gibson HHC CPT BMI VLC